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#1270 - 02/12/07 09:06 AM
23 Months RIFING still very sick , is this normal? "UPDATE", maybe having a turn around.
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Steve
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Registered: 02/11/07
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Sick of Being sick....Yes I use a-lot of COLLOIDAL/SILVER ...I have the SILVER/PUPPY GENERATOR....I herxed from the C/Silver Water....( I have to admit that the GB4000 was not operating at its full power for about 10 months, of the 22 months of rifing. It was probably working at about 50% of its power....I sent it back to Ron/Jeff for a tune-Up and software up-grade which they did at no charge...Now its working right and operating at full power) But I was and am using 2 other rife type machines..( on the COLLOIDAL/SILVER, I drank the C/S/Water about every other day, Maybe an 8oz glass or maybe alittle more... and used a good quality NEBULIZER to get the C/SILVER into the lungs Via Straight into the blood stream...I had big herx's That felt like there were A thousand wholes being drilled into my head. I thought it was going to drive me NUTS....But it mellowed after a few months of treating....I plan to try the C/S=Nebulizer treatments again soon...Just to see if I herx again from the treatments, and how intence the herx's will be, if any...?? I'll post on it after I try it...)
Edited by Steve (01/11/09 07:22 PM)
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#1313 - 02/19/07 08:16 AM
22 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Steve
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I've been rifing for 22 months now..I have 3 machines I treat with, once a week (I try to rotate the machines, A different machine every few weeks apart). (1= the HPMP.) (2= a RIFLABS MACHINE. (3= THE GB4000 W/AMP). Using the GB4000 in the AUDIO/MODE changed the HERX. treating in the A/MODE is very intence, I had to cut back the treatments in A/MODE because the HERXING was so intence I thought I might cut back on the treatments or the amount of time I'm treating. The herxing will last for weeks. I never herxed with the HPMP. But the GB4000 in the RF/MODE and the A/MODE very intence HERXING. I still don't see the light at the end of a very long tunnel, I'm sick most the time. LymeTicBite back in 1984. main infection seems to be in the head, but alot of pain in the heart/chest, kidneys, liver, etc. I sometimes think I'm not going to get any better. But I keep treating once a week. I treat for hours now. I just ordered the 3D/COILMACHINE from http://www.coilmachine.com I'll post on that ASAP and if it makes a difference. god I need a little break. I been very very sick for over 20 years now. sometimes I think I'm going to lose my mind. but, I am a warrior, and will fight this thing to the bitter end if need be. If I don't get through this thing, it won't be from a lack onf trying.
Edited by Steve (04/02/07 05:10 PM)
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#1314 - 02/19/07 11:18 AM
Re: 22 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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findacure
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Registered: 02/01/07
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Loc: Chicago
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Have you tried silver water? I know that it is helping me tremendously ... you can purchase it from http://www.healthnorm.com, he is in Canada.
Keep me posted.
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#1325 - 02/25/07 07:54 AM
Re: 22 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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L41
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Registered: 01/01/07
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Hi Steve, I think you are rifing too much, and it would be wise to cut back to half as much....The cytokine (herx heimer reaction) if it is too intense,can cause harm. It is not wise to put your body thru this. Think of chemotherapy used for treating cancer patients. Too much chemo can permanently damage the patient. One needs to find a balance. On one hand it's great that you are seeing this type of result, but on the other hand, the treatment can cause damage and it's important to listen to your body and go for some middle ground. You should only have herx's that last no more than a week. Also, you should be doing something for detoxing and getting out the neurotoxin trash. Try soaking in hot epsom salt baths every other day. +Put alot of Espsom salt in the water. Espsom salts are full of magnesium that can be absorbed through the skin, and it will help your immune system and help you feel better. The baths should make you sweat. Also, a deep tissue massage, followed by drinking lots of water and then a hot epsom bath can be an enormous help. Thanks for the post and for sharing your results....I feel as if I am your sister in this, and wish you a fast and speedy recovery. I am doing Bruhners protocol and also rifing weekly with my EMEM machine. I too am getting herx reactions with it, which is surprising as I thought that the Samento would chase the spirochettes into the cyst form. I'm thinking that the Samento may not be that effective for me as maybe the borrelia have found away to mutate already...this is all so experimental.....
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#1351 - 03/13/07 06:28 PM
Re: 22 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Steve
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Steve Here...I started using the 3D/COILMACHINE today 3/13/07. I used all 3 modes #1, #2. #3. I'll be posting any herx reactions and if I think its going to make the difference. The machine is pretty easy to use. (*UP/DATE 3/29/07 Thursday, I've treated with the 3D/Coilmachine three times now and HERXED all three times pretty intensely, but not real bad...The QSC/AMPLIFIER that comes with the 3D/CM kept triping the curcuit/breaker and would not run the coilmachine frequencies at their full/power, new right out of the box, it was not working right?. The 3D/CM was only operating at maybe 60% of its power, or less. I had to return the QSC/AMPL. back for service/repair, so I'll be held up for a few weeks and will not treating with the 3D/CM until its repaired?*)
Update 4/21/07 Got the 3D/Coilmahine back and started treating with it agin. Will be posting on it soon. Its a very powerful machine. Herxing all day from it, but Not real bad.
Edited by Steve (04/21/07 08:39 PM)
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#1402 - 04/04/07 07:07 AM
Re: 22 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Steve
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Steve Here, I will start a DETOX for MERCURY TOXICITY right away. I'll use the method in the book by ANDREW HALL CUTLER, AMALGAM-ILLNESS-DIANOSIS-&-TREATMENT. ( This book is very highly rated and is mentioned in the http://www.lymebook.com ) I understand now that probably MERCURY/POISONING is playing a role in my not getting better, it can't hurt to DETOX anyway.
Edited by Steve (04/04/07 07:18 AM)
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#1411 - 04/10/07 07:08 PM
Re: 22 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Steve
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I'm back to using COLLOIDAL/SILVER, Drinking the silver water, about 6.oz to 8.oz a day or every other day. And putting the COLLOIDAL/SILVER water in a NEBULIZER to get/bring the CS into the lungs so it go's straight into my blood stream. I add 3 drops of ALLIMED/LIQUID to the CS/WATER, both in the drink and in the NEBULIZER. Hopefully killing lyme and any co-infections? The ALLIMED is suppose to help the immune system. I'll try this for about a month. I'll post on it if think it helps me at all?
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#1425 - 04/11/07 10:40 AM
Re: 22 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Willo
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Registered: 11/10/06
Posts: 81
Loc: South Puget Sound, WA State
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Please do keep us updated; I wish you the best!
Namaste, Willo
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#1592 - 05/10/07 08:08 AM
Re: 23 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Steve
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I've been using the coilmachine now for about 1.5 Months now. And I really think it maybe helping turn the tide. I'm also taking ALLIMED which maybe helping also....Its really to early for me to tell.? I'll be posting as soon as I really think I'm having A turn-around in this lyme disease. And also, I've started a pretty aggressive detox program, which I know is helping. I am somewhat better, but I just want to see a week or two where I can really say I feel better. Then I'll know I'm really on to something thats working. "THANKS TO THE NEW BOOK (TOP TEH TREATMENTS FOR LYME DISEASE) By B. Rosner. Posted this as of 5/14/07
Edited by Steve (05/26/07 06:50 AM)
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#1621 - 05/12/07 08:39 PM
Re: 23 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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mbwmax
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Registered: 05/09/07
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I am so happy you are gettinh some relief now and maybe this is the sign of better things to come for you. Hang in there - obviously you are a FIGHTER!!!
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#1879 - 06/29/07 06:21 AM
Re: 23 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Steve
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I've been treating with the COILMACHINE now for 2 or 3 months now, I can't really say if its helping yet. I'm still sick most the time. But Bryan's new book may prove to be a great help. I will keep up dating. And I will post as so as I think I'm having a real turn around in this disease.
Edited by Steve (06/29/07 08:07 PM)
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#1881 - 07/01/07 08:13 AM
Re: 23 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Willo
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Registered: 11/10/06
Posts: 81
Loc: South Puget Sound, WA State
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You're in my thoughts, Steve.
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#4148 - 01/11/09 07:49 PM
Re: 23 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Steve
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I've been rifing for 3.5 years now, and still herxing from the rife machines ( I have 4 rife type machines). Mostly I use the GB-4000 with the 10 watt ampl.
I've been using the antibiotic "Minocin" Name brand only, for about a month. (I feel I did herx from the Minocin).
And MMS for about a year. Tried mercury detox. I'm still sick most the time. Sometimes pretty sick sometimes better. All these treatments have helped a-lot. But I'm still sick most the time. So it go's..? Now I'm thinking that THE MARSHALL PROTOCOL maybe the only other thing that may help.
I really thought the MMS was going to kick this lyme out, its helped, and may take a-lot more time. I don't really know. I just wanted to post here to let anyone whose using or trying these alternative treatments know how its going for me.
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#4355 - 03/28/09 08:59 PM
Re: 23 Months of RIFING, Still very sick and herxing most the time, is this normal
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Steve
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Using Rife type machines, MMS with DMSO, has helped me get much better.....Mixing the MMS with The DMSO is a real lyme killer. For more info. on DMSO/MMS read my blog here on DMSO amd MMS. In **GENERAL DISCUSSION** (I'm not suggesting here that anyone anywhere do or try using MMS/DMSO or Rife machines to treat lyme or anything else.) I'm just explaining here whats helped me get better, much, much better, from 28 years of dealing with lyme disease. More on DMSO .......
See Dr. Jacob talk about DMSO on YouTube.com and read Dr. Walker's book, "DMSO NATURE'S HEALER" ( I don't think Lyme can survive in "Spirochete, L-form or cyst-form" when DMSO is mixed with MMS. ) Read Dr. Walker's book on DMSO and I think you to will understand why....We will see.....I'm the guineapig here...and getting much better, faster..."But I'm still not symptom free by any-means".....I still have a ways to go....?
Edited by Steve (04/07/09 08:15 PM)
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#4376 - 04/16/09 04:00 PM
Re: 23 Months RIFING still very sick , is this normal? "UPDATE", maybe having a turn aroun
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mtguy
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Registered: 06/11/08
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Steve You have something else going on; i.e. other infections, toxic overload, inability to breakdown and eliminate toxins/bio-debris etc. Probably not good to stay in Herx. I would suggest you consider stop "killing" and start eliminating. Look at Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt's info, http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/ ; as well as Dr Robert Myers' info and supplements http://www.lymeaid.net/. The New book by Dr. Kenneth Singleton looks promising.
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#4404 - 04/30/09 07:23 AM
Re: 23 Months RIFING still very sick , is this normal? "UPDATE", maybe having a turn aroun
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Steve
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MMS and DMSO work at De-Toxicing. The web/site above looks like there just trying to sell stuff, they may help I don't know that first hand....?
Perhaps in time, some of the stuff at these web/sites may help someone, I know they talk about 900 people, or something like that "Got Better"..? "I'm skeptical"
I know that MMS and DMSO and MSM and Rife Machines has help me a great deal. "That I know". And I'm not trying to sell sick people something here, like these web/site are.
I also know that MMS and DMOS "eliminates toxins/bio-debris" and kills lyme and its co-infections.
I'll stick to whats working for me. read my blog here on DMSO & MMS in **GENERAL DISCUSSION**
I'm not suggesting any-person try DMSO & MMS or Rife Machines to treat in anyway. I'm only writing here about whats helped me get a-lot better.
Edited by Steve (04/30/09 07:19 PM)
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