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#4098 - 12/15/08 01:40 AM
Stumped by a lab result
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thane17
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Registered: 10/09/08
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I've only known i've had lyme for about three months. While I was searching for the cause of my illness i had a test drawn for Immuniglobulin E (IgE) for allergies. It was through the roof!! Normal is less than 114 and mine was 3444!!! I was seen by a environmental health specialist in Dallas named Dr. Rae. He has had 40,000 patients through there and has only seen a score like that three times. IgE is elevated by mold, dust, pollon, food, and parasites. Since I believe i'm avoiding known allergens, i've decided that my high score must be due to Lyme disese, which isn't too crazy since it is considered a parasite as well. however, i've been treating lately and am having a harder time getting herx reactions. Have any of you had IgE tests done and recieved really high scores? Is it from spirochetes or cell wall deficient forms, or even cysts? I'm trying to determine how elevated IgE scores fits into the big picture. I suspect that the score could be high due to cell wall deficient forms because my spirochete load shouldn't be nearly so high anymore...perhaps nobody knows...any info or guesses?
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#4101 - 12/16/08 06:53 AM
Re: Stumped by a lab result
[Re: thane17]
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Rich_skiweasel7
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Registered: 12/29/06
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My Guess: You may be stuck in a Th2 responce (see last link below). I believe (anyone correct me if wrong) that lyme is more like a intracellular pathogen. Thus needing a Th1 responce. I am just reading about this and know only a little, but these links seems helpful:
http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/diagnosis/cheneyis.html
"The Th2-type cytokines include interleukins 4, 5, and 13, which are associated with the promotion of IgE and eosinophilic responses in atopy, and also interleukin-10, which has more of an anti-inflammatory response."
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=27457
Let me know if you find better answers. This is interesting stuff.
Thanks,
Rich (skiweasel7)
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#4232 - 02/17/09 10:43 AM
Re: Stumped by a lab result
[Re: Rich_skiweasel7]
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Bonita
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Registered: 02/17/09
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Hi Thane,
Perhaps you have missed a co-infection in your treatment. I heard you say in one of your videos that you don't have Bartonella but what if that is incorrect? The tests are not definitive for ruling anything out and besides they can only test for a few strains when there are many more. Bartonella can multiply very fast and take over, especially as you lower the counts of other species. I was advised to treat for Bartonella first when I get my coil machine and not to switch frequencies until I no longer herx for Bart and that's what I plan to do.
Bonita.
Canadian Coordinator
GLOBAL RECOGNITION CAMPAIGN
Multiple Chemical Sensitivity
and other Chemically Induced Illnesses, Diseases & Injury
affecting civilians and military personnel
http://www.mcs-global.org
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