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#2975 - 02/17/08 07:04 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
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aigle1314
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What has happened to all our MMS people? It would be great to hear how you are all doing.
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#2976 - 02/17/08 07:16 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
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Arrow
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Yes, there are users who have been on it for months. Jim says he's been on it for about 10 years. Recently he's been experimenting on himself doing it by IV.
Dr Klinghart has added mms to his protocol. You can read it here:
http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?p=15505#post15505
I know someone who has been doing for 3 months for HIV and is doing very well. His viral load is way down and his T cells are up. He's been doing 6 drops 2 or 3 times a day when he remembers to do the 3rd dose at all.
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#2992 - 02/21/08 03:57 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Arrow]
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Steve
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Steve here......Still improving on MMS, As I said in an early post. This is going to take some time....We all know how hardy the Lyme & co-infections etc. are...! We just have to continue on the MMS Protocol.....One of us or some of us will begin to breakthrough and feel we're really getting well......I feel I'm maybe 75% better after using MMS for three months now......I've gone up to 25 drop/dose three times a day and backed off to 15 drops two times a-day.....and I'm pulsing the treatments.....Sometimes I stop MMS treatments for two or three days....And then start banging the MMS again for three to five day in a row.......Drinking LOTS of water, and 4 or 5 hours after treating ...I start taking Vitamins and minerals and enzymes, etc...And more water, water, and more water.....I'm getting better....I still have some symptoms......But I feel I am getting better using MMS and Rife.....When I feel like I've made a big leap in gettin better ....I'll be posting it......Again, Jim humble says in his book "BREAKTHROUGH" that L/D maybe one of the hardest disease's he's ever seen for MMS to CURE.....But he believes MMS will CURE Lyme Disease and its co-infections, And so do I.....We just have to keep to the Protocol...And see what happens......? "Hang it there"
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#3032 - 02/26/08 02:48 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Steve]
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Arrow
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http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/first-look-the-understanding-mms-videos-arrive/
Rett Anderson from HealthSalon had this to say about Adam Abraham's DVD on MMS:
"I have been viewing Adam Abraham's new DVD, “Understanding MMS, Conversations With Jim Humble”.
It is EXCELLENT! You have done a fine job, Adam. Thank You for having the inspiration and talent to do this work.
I will be looking forward to the next MMS DVD project.
There will be a next project, right?
This could be just the beginning of the documentary! The rise of MMS and the downfall of antibiotic therapy and all the destruction it has caused. This is a documentary of a paradigm shift that will rock pharmageddon, will alter our very way of life and our current economy within healthcare delivery around the world.
I recommend this DVD to anyone who is interested in MMS. It is a great teaching tool and clarifies many questions that come up over and over. For those who are working diligently to promote MMS you must see it and present it to those you are trying to educate.
Congratulations, Adam, for taking this very significant first step, in education and communication. I wish you many prosperous DVD sales!
visit http://www.HealthSalon.org for further MMS information"
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#3070 - 02/29/08 07:46 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Arrow]
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Steve
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On Adam Abraham's DVD on Jim Humble and MMS, I agree with "Arrow" in the above post.....Jim talks about MMS and Lyme Disease in the DVD.....Jim Humble just says in the DVD that LD is very difficult for MMS to get at and kill off, basically Jim says that he really does not know if MMS will cure LD....?
I guess he's just trying to say its to early to tell if MMS can cure LD. We just have not been using MMS against LD long enough for anyone to say if it will cure lyme.
As I said in an above post, I'm still not symptom free, but I feel I am making progress, "slowly"..( How many times have you heard that one?)
And I'm still Rifing, no real herxing now, but we all know how sneaky LD is....I'm pulsing Rife and MMS. I've used pretty high dose's of MMS, 25 Drops three times a day.....Now I backed off to 15 drops two times a day....Then taking some days off from all treating......?
But back to the Jim Humble DVD, very well done Adam.....I'm happy to have it....There's a-lot of great info. on the DVD thats not in Jims book "BREAKTHROUGH".....By4NowSteve
Edited by Steve (02/29/08 02:22 PM)
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#3082 - 03/01/08 03:26 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Steve]
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Steve
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There's a Dr. Klinghardt at
http//health.group.yahoo.com/group/lyme-and-rife/
That talks about a MMS Protocol, using MMS to treat Lyme Disease, The Dr.Klinghardt, says it will take about 18 Months for some people to cure LD using MMS.
Dr. Klinghardt's Protocol for treating Lyme at the above web/site.....?
Hey, at least we've got some hope here. no one is saying MMS does not work or kill lymes.....We just have to hang in there and keep treating with what ever's going to work best.....Right now its MMS and Rife, etc.....?
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#3096 - 03/03/08 11:45 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Steve]
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Arrow
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Well time will tell I guess with Lyme and MMS. Someone I have been tracking with Lyme and using MMS stopped for a few weeks and he really felt it. So I would presume that the critters got busy reproducing when the MMS was held back. In light of this, to really get to a cure, you would need to be consistent for a long time I would think. I can't imagine. I don't have lyme and therefore do not have such pressure to keep at the MMS every day.
We must count small blessings sometimes. Even if MMS does not bring a cure for whatever reason relief is worth a lot! I have read about people who have been able to get back to work and resume a more normal life even though they don't consider themselves cured at this point.
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#3140 - 03/12/08 08:16 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Arrow]
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aigle1314
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Just wondering how all the MMS users out there are doing?
Steve, still on the protocol?
I'm one month and holding steady but only doing it once a day (15 drops) since I feel I need all my other neutraceutucals to stay functioning.
Have any of you had some changes in the way you take it, how often, etc... Just curious as to how others are doing and FEELING on the MMS.
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#3157 - 03/14/08 02:20 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
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Steve
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Steve here.....Still treating with Rife and MMS. I e-mailed Jim Humble down in Mexico about using MMS in a "Nebulizer" to get the MMS in to the blood stream better or faster......My concern was "Would the MMS burn the lungs"? Jim said, not if you use low dose's, like one or two drops of MMS mixed with 2.oz's or 3. ounces of Distilled water..."And of course using the drops of activator" 5 drops for 1 drop of MMS, etc.....in the nebulizer....I tried it, its very intense. The one drop dose is not to intense but the two drop/dose is pretty intense.....I would not try 3 drops. I think it might burn the lungs at 3 drops....But the herx on 2 drops in the nebulizer is pretty intense for me.....I tried it last night and a few other times before. But from the treatment last night, I'm feeling a herx today...and herxed every time I've tried MMS in the Nebulizer..
I use the Nebulizer and MMS for about 45 minute, then I use "Two Tablets or Pharmaceutcal Grade SALT" in about 6.oz of warm water, I let the salt dissolve in the warm water, Then with a "nasal douche" I rinse the inside of the nose and sinus's and the back of the throat out..At this lite salt/water solution, like a saline solution, it will not burn the inside of the nose..If its warm you hardly feel it in the nose, Because its about as salty as your natural tears are. So it will not burn the inside of the nose, like just plain fresh water would burn the insde of the nose.......its a yoga technique for cleansing the nose and sinus's and back of the throat........
...As I'm gently pouring or squeezing the "Nasal douche" of lite salt/water mix to clean out the MMS, out of the nose and throat, I turn my head to one side "LEANING THE HEAD TO THE SIDE LIKE THIS = (/) OR LEANING THE HEAD MORE TO ONE SIDE AND A-LITTLE FOREWARD OVER A BATHROOM SINK" and stick the tonque out and say or make the sound, AHHHHHHH, so the air or breath is going out of the lungs, as I gently squeeze the lite salt water through the and up into the "nose" it comes out the mouth and the other side of the nose, some will go down the back of the throat, I just cough it out.....I try not to let any of the salt water get down into the lungs "of course" because it will make one choke!....The salt/water should be or taste about as salty as a tear, maybe a-little salty'er ....Then I turn my head to the other side (\) and repeat the cleansing of the other nostril or other side of the nose..I rinse each side the nostrils and sinus's out about 3 or 4 times, to make sure I can get as much of the MMS out of the nostrils/sinus's/throat as possible...
You can read about this yoga cleansing technique in many good yoga books..Or check it out online, google it.....It can help cure the common cold...But I use it to clean out the MMS because the MMS in the nose and sinus does burn a-little if you don't clean it out.....And if someone were to do this technique wrong, it would be possible to "DROWN" your self...? ...So it should be done gently and slowly and carefully....its a great cleansing technique......And using the MMS in the Nebulizer does seem to make me herx pretty intensely....And herxing is a very good thing....your killing lyme.....My herx's are not real bad now because I've been treating with Rife for years now......The MMS in the nebulizer is just another way to get the MMS into some different parts of the body......My main symptoms seem to be in my central nervous system at this time.....And I just thought the MMS might get up into the Brain much better and faster using a nebulizer..The MMS doesn't have to go through the digestive system, when using the nebulizer...And I think its working, because of the herxing....Its intense, yes, but not to bad. But this is lymes were talking about, not the common cold.......Lyme is very tough....But we do what it takes to try to get better......I wouldn't treat this way every day.....But I do treat this way every few days....So-far its working and its not burning my lungs....? "I am not suggesting anyone try this treatment technique" or to treat using MMS for anything or any disease.....I'm just telling you what I'm trying .....Steve
Edited by Steve (03/17/08 03:04 AM)
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#3224 - 03/27/08 03:30 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Steve]
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ahmet
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Registered: 03/23/08
Posts: 36
Loc: turkey
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hi steve
i want to ask you some question
What kind of changes have you had for 3 months? How many days later did you have herx and how long did it take? do you still have the expectatiton to get cures with MMS? i am on MMS 20 drops day and any herx didn t occur. thank you for understanding
sincerely.ahmet
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#3250 - 03/28/08 03:20 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
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Steve
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I'm still pretty sick some times, but Better. But days like the last two are not so good...? I seem to get sicker when I stop taking the MMS for a few days. So when that happens, I start taking the MMS again...
L.D. seems to move in its cycles. As I said in a earlier post. "This is going to take time".
Jim Humble said in his book, "It may take 18 Months, many be longer, to cure L.D."
"CURE" is a big word in the "LYME DISEASE COMMUNITY" isn't it...?
So, we just keep treating, we'll see what happens....? I don't here anyone saying there cured yet....?
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#3254 - 03/30/08 01:40 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Steve]
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ahmet
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Registered: 03/23/08
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i understand you steve. i think you use MMS for 3 months. have you had any herx reaction? i use it for one week and i didn t notice any herx.(30 drops). regards.ahmet
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#3321 - 04/14/08 05:17 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: ahmet]
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Arrow
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Steve, can you explain for me how you use MMS in a nebulizer?
Is it activated MMS or just straight out of the bottle?
Are you inhaling it directly into your lungs?
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#3347 - 04/18/08 01:44 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Arrow]
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Steve
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Hi Steve here, as I said above, I am trying MMS in a nebulizer "activated" only. I would "NOT TRY IT STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOTTLE, "NOT ACTIVATED" (NO!)..It would burn the lungs!.. 1/one drop of MMS and 5 drops of activator, or 2 drops of MMS and still only 5 drops of the activator..( Activated only )... I just found that 10 drops of the activator for 2 drops of MMS was to much to breath in, so I leave it at 5 drops of activator. I tried 3 drops with still only 5 drops of activator and its a-little to intense. So I'm only doing 1 to 2 drops of MMS with, no more that 5 drops of the citric acid, activator. And this is something I wouldn't do on a regular basis. May-be I'd try it twice a month. Or maybe a-little more often. "maybe"?
I did try it when I came down with a bad flu. There's no way I could handle that. Not even one drop. "DON'T TRY THAT!".....It was ok when I knew I was first comming down with the Flu, But once the Flu took off and got pretty bad. There's no way I could use the nebulizer. But, I do think the MMS, drinking it orally, did help kill off the Flu. The Flu was pretty intense, but not as bad as I've had it in the past.....? And this was a kicking Flu bug that was going around. Some of my friends thought they were dieing. So I think the MMS is not only killing the Flu/bug. But I still think its killing Lyme and removing many toxins.....? I am not telling anyone to try MMS in a nebulizer or to use MMS for any other treatment for any other disease or to remove toxsins. I'm only saying here what I'm trying....."I'm not any-kind of health care provider"
Edited by Steve (04/19/08 03:07 PM)
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#3358 - 04/20/08 12:30 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Steve]
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Arrow
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Steve, Personally, I wouldn't inhale it.
According to a professor at the University of Senora, in Mexico, MMS will cure chronic antibiotic resistant pneumonia. I watched over the use and cure of such a case. If it will do this orally why would one want to inhale it? Lung tissue is extremely sensitive and does not regenerate well at all.
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#3360 - 04/20/08 01:04 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Arrow]
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Steve
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Hi Arrow,
To get the MMS straight into the blood steam, with out having the MMS go through the digestion system....As I said above. I'm not telling you or anyone else to try MMS in a nebulizer.
And As I said above, I e-mailed Jim Humble and asked Jim if he thought the MMS would hurt/burn the lungs. Jim said NO. "as long as one keep the Drops down to 1 or 2" (Activated Drops). You think about some of the stuff people put down into there lungs.."Pharmaceuticals", "smoke", etc...? A very small amount of MMS may not be so bad.....But again, I'm not telling anyone to try anything, in any way.....And Arrow, I think your right, if I were you, I wouldn't inhale MMS ether........And I may not try it again myself....We all know Jim Humble doesn't know everything there is to know about MMS. And if I thought it would burn or felt like it was hurting or burning the lungs, I surely would stop it and would not try it. But Your right, It may not be a very good Idea. I was just trying to get a-little MMS straight into the blood stream...?
Edited by Steve (04/25/08 02:24 PM)
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#3409 - 04/29/08 08:42 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Steve]
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4Health
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I'm fairly new to dealing with Lyme (only a year in) but have managed to avoid taking any abx. If the notion with abx is that it actives the Lyme's defense mechanism and sends it into the cyst form, etc and possibly makes it dormant doesn't the MMS have the same effect? espcially since it's delivered through the blood stream like abx?
Or is this simply a case where Rife Machines are only making people healthier to a degree and so therefore you have to trying SOMETHING else if abx aren't working....
I've just started the Plasma Rife Machine this month and was hoping that might do the trick but sounds like it's no silver bullet....
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#3411 - 04/30/08 02:00 AM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: 4Health]
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Steve
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4Health, MMS works in a very different way then any abx. MMS is a supper oxidizer. And may very well oxidize the cyst, and L-forms, and the spirrochete in LD. Theres is no real prof of this that I know of yet. But MMS is such a very powerful oxidizer, I really think it kills all forms of LD....But I'll be the first to tell you I maybe wrong. But MMS can not hurt, and does seem help a-lot. And I think in a pretty short time here, we're going to see some people calling themselfs CURED of lyme disease, using MMS and Riffing and other protocols. Now theres anther thing anyone with LD should be looking into as far as illness go's and being sick with LD, and thats making sure you don't also suffer from "Amalgamated mercury illness" from your dental fillings or some other way we might be suffering from mercury poisoning, The sypmtoms are almost identical to Lymes Disease.
And Jim Humble says that MMS will oxidize mercury, lead, etc.
I had ALL my Amalgamated mercury/silver fillings removed, And continue to improve weekly. Using MMS and Rife.
Edited by Steve (05/01/08 03:16 AM)
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#3429 - 05/03/08 03:34 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: Steve]
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Steve
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Its seems like every time I stop using MMS for a few days to about a week, I get much sicker. Then I start back using MMS. I'm trying to pulse the MMS, using MMS for about three weeks straight, then stopping for about 5 days, and start taking my vitamins. But it seems that a day or two after I stop MMS I get pretty sick...? And as I said above I'm going to start Detoxing for mercury poisoning. I have (A. Hall Cutlers Book ) on "Amalgam Illness" in reading his book, it sounds like mercury poisoning has the very same symptoms that Lyme Disease has...? And as I said above, I am improving very, very slowly...?
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#3440 - 05/07/08 01:25 PM
Re: I'm trying MMS & DMSO for lyme treatment..?
[Re: bruce]
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steely
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Hi steve
Do you have co-infections and is MMS helping against them as well...Best of luck
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