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#195 - 11/20/06 04:14 PM
Rifing for 8 mths But getting progressively Worse
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Cind6852
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Registered: 11/20/06
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I have had Lyme (MS presentation) and WA1 for 13 yrs. Went down the long road of antibiotics for the last 5 years. The only time I improved was when my babesia was treated. BUT...it's been back for over 2 years and is unresponsive to everything. Seems even the rife. I started getting worse about 6 weeks after starting treatment with rife. I assumed it was a sign of herxing. My legs began to get weaker in early May. I stopped antibiotics the beginning of June. As the weeks and months go by I am becoming more and more crippled. Now need a wheelchair to leave the house. I feel sick all the time too. My Dr. says it's the babesia entrenched causing me to get worse along with the Lyme. I have ran programs for, parasites, candida, mycoplasma,bartonella,lot's of different Lyme frequencies,malaria, etc. But I've seen NO improvement.
Does it sound like it's not working on me. I stopped about a week and a half ago because I got so bad running the parasite programs I couldn't walk and had severe fatigue.Didn't know if it was the rife or the diseases ramping up. I'm still real bad but a little better than I was. I just don't know what to do. I see my LLMD in 2 weeks and he wants to put me back on mepron and who knows what else. He retested me and my WB's are still positive as is my WA1.I know it's a long slow process with rife technology but shouldn't I see a glimmer of improvement??
Any input would be appreciated. I've been having ALOT of pity parties lately and the depression is overboard these last few weeks
Thanks, Cindy F
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#196 - 11/20/06 07:09 PM
Re: Rifing for 8 mths But getting progressively Worse
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BryanRosner
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Registered: 11/08/06
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Loc: Mountains of Northern CA
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Many MS people are having good luck with Mangosteen juice, brand Xango...you can find it on the internet (Google search).
I don't sell it or have any financial relationship.
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DISCLAIMER: Bryan Rosner is a journalist, not a healthcare provider or doctor.
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#1290 - 02/12/07 03:30 PM
Re: Rifing for 8 mths But getting progressively Worse
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Steve
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Registered: 02/11/07
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GET THE BOOK "LYME DISEASE AND RIFE MACHINES" By Bryan Rosnar....Go to http://www.lymebook.com ...I'm posted here under the name Steve.....I got lymetick bit back in 1984......I've been rifing/treating for 21 months....Still very sick all the time...
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#1641 - 05/16/07 02:09 PM
Re: Rifing for 8 mths But getting progressively Worse
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LAB
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Registered: 04/24/07
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Hello,
I think all of you who are still sick even while rifing need to see if you have HEAVY METAL TOXICITY.
If so until you remove the heavy metals you will NOT improve. You need to "safely" (find a dentist who protects the back of your throat from the filling going down it, otherwise you will have more heavy metal issues like I did!) remove the amalgum fillings in your mouth and chelate what is internal in your tissues and brain. Heavy Metals in the amalgam tooth filings OUT GASS which means they emit the heavy metal in a gas vapor form and your body absorbs it. Also if anyone is using HENNA STOP USING IT. Almost ALL Henna contains LEAD but it's not on the package. I tried it for 3 months and started having neurological symptoms of jerks in my head and arms. I then came across a site that metioned lead being in Henna and warning people that it's not on the lable. Some very good heavy metal oral chelators are NDF, PCA Rx, and Detoxamine is a Suppository.
I've been there and know from personal experience. I had chronic hip pain 24/7 for 20+ years. In all but 2.5 days my Rife got rid of the symptoms.
The chelators also pull PCB's, incecticides, all kinds of environmentally toxic non-water soluble stored chemicals we've come in contact with by breathing, consuming and using that's compromising our immune system OUT! Once you give your immune system a chance to recouperate, you will Rife better and will see better results! Hang in there and don't give up. There is a "reason" why you are not responding and you have to dig further to find out what your body burdens are environmentally.
You will probably want to also look into cleansing your colon, liver, blood, lymph etc. You can google those cleanses and find a lot of info on them. Bottom line...don't just clean your house...clean the INSIDE of your body and HELP it help itself get well. It needs your help to do that.
Best Wishes,
LAB
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#1670 - 05/20/07 04:23 PM
Re: Rifing for 8 mths But getting progressively Worse
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earthwalker
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Registered: 12/02/06
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Have you heard of Cryptolepis for Babesia? It's an herb that Stephen Buhner is recommending now over Artemesia. I haven't heard much from people who are using it so I don't know how effective it is. You can browse his advice column on Planet Thrive for references to cryptolepis here: Healing Lyme with Herbs
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#1684 - 05/23/07 10:38 AM
Re: Rifing for 8 mths But getting progressively Worse
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Willo
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Registered: 11/10/06
Posts: 81
Loc: South Puget Sound, WA State
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I think I first heard of cryp a few years ago when I was looking up Malaria treatments -- but as "northeastern sedge" (since in the US it only naturally grows in the northeast) ..the name cyrptolepis is relatively new to me; this is the 2nd time I've heard of that name, this month! So, of course, now curiosity got the better of me, and I googled to try to get an idea of what it is.
I've found a place on the net where to get it (gives a bit of an explanation):
(earthwalker, this is from planetthrive.com too)
Yes, we do sell the Cryptolepsis extract. The cryptolepsis is the root of a shrub which is wildcrafted in Ghana. It is a new herb extract for us to be selling, having been asked by Stephen Buhner to carry this, after his research showed what an excellent choice this herb is for Babesia co-infections with Lymes. It will soon be on our website for ordering. We carry an alcohol extract (1:5, 65% alcohol) prepared with the dry herb. Dose ranges from 1/2 - 1 teaspoon 3x/day.
The cost is :
1 ounce bottle $9.00
2 ounce bottle $17.00
4 ounce bottle $32.00
Folks can call to order @ 315.845.1515, or printout order form and mail, or order through email via our website or simply woodland@ntcnet.com. We are not set up for pay pal or credit cards online yet...we do take credit cards as payment via phone and mail though.
(http://planetthrive.com/cgi-bin/members/pub9990215559469.cgi?itemid=9990250100115&action=viewad&categoryid=9990249774350&page=1&placeonpage=2&totaldisplayed=15)
I also found an oxford study that says how the extract of the plant has potent cytotoxins (toxins that invade cells) but that was also in 2002, and a LOT can happen in 5 years with the development of a safe (safer) product. (http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/70/2/245)
Is it the same thing Buhner is talking about? Have they made sure that the herb extract is more safe now? Or does it carry a risk pretty much like everything else does? lol
The other place I recently heard of it was in lymenet's flash forum -- http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=054743;p=
That whole page is a good read for different choices of treatment for babs.
Annnd.. I've heard it may be helpful for borrelia and bartonella, too. Reference to using it for Lyme borrelia: http://www.grianherbs.com/protocols/lyme.htm
I can't find/remember where I saw the bart reference.
I'm curious to find out more about this herb; I've emailed a few people asking for more info. Will get report back here as soon as I get any responses!
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